[BRA BURNING] Why Is There An Idiot Writing About Why “There Are So Many Cute Girls at Metal and Hardcore Shows Now”?
by Yasi Salek on Jan 30, 2014 • 11:02 pm 40 CommentsTonight I took a break from my busy only-listening-to-Lorde-and-Taylor-Swift schedule to peruse some articles on the Internet. After I checked on all my favorite shoe and purse blogs and used Pinterest to update my “dream wedding” board, I somehow happened upon this article entitled “Why Are There So Many Cute Girls At Metal & Hardcore Concerts Now?” on MTV written by some guy named Ethan Fixell. After I finished reading the piece (it took me a while because like most girls, I was often distracted by gossip texts about boyz on my blinged-out cell phone), I was immediately struck by a few questions. Who IS Ethan Fixell? Is he a hottie? And more importantly, is he for fucking real right now?
One thing is for sure, Ethan is a man who simply CANNOT wrap his brain around the fact that women may actively enjoy hardcore and metal music, since bands like Dying Fetus are “not exactly known for catering to female tastes.” This begs the question: what ARE our tastes exactly, Ethan? I always prefer to be told by a man what I like and what I don’t like so I’ll just defer to you on this one.
Ethan is also a man who KNOWS that part of the reason girls are coming to more of these shows as of late is because the events “aren’t as scary as they were 20 or even 10 years ago”, since girls have always been SO SCARED of mosh pits and aggressive music that they have long regularly avoided these sorts of shows.
Ethan also knows that women have recently learned to use computers (for shopping mostly), and have been using the Internet to help us “demystify extreme music, making it more accessible and less intimidating.” Which makes sense, since girls have long been banned from entering record stores, purchasing zines, and otherwise learning about and engaging with musical cultures like men did before the Internet existed. THANK GAIA FOR THE WEB!!!
Ethan is also a man who is very well-versed in metal himself, which is why I’m sure he TOTALLY knows that Marauder is a cheesy Greek metal band perhaps best known for their contribution of “Gimme More” to a 90s KISS tribute album, while is an iconic New York hardcore band who actually played CBGBs in 1992 in case you were wondering what year “whenever that was” refers to. Although since Ethan is a comedian, I’m sure this was all a big joke on lead singer Andreas Tsaoussis!
Most importantly, Ethan is also a man who spends his entire article making sure we know the focus here is PRETTY girls. Because as we all know, attractive women have different taste in music than women deemed unattractive by men like Ethan and Jeff the bouncer at St. Vitus. In fact, including the title, the writer uses an appearance-describing adjective (like “cute” “hot” or “beautiful”) no less than seven times, undoubtedly to ensure that we know he is definitely not talking about those unfortunate uggos out there. The true MIRACLE here is that now there are pretty girls showing up to metal and hardcore shows, just in time to get their “side-boobs” ogled!
At the risk of having an actual opinion here Ethan (I wouldn’t want you to have to write another article exploring the thought-provoking question: “Since when do girls have opinions?”) may I offer for your consideration that perhaps one of the reasons that there are more women at hardcore and metal shows in recent years is that the number of men at these shows who view them solely as walking fuck dolls has diminished with evolution? Although there’s still you and John Jarvis from Pig Destroyer and of course, Jeff, so perhaps I’m wrong on this one.
But in terms of how to pick up these unicorn hot girls at metal shows, since that seemed to be what you were getting at the whole time, here’s a tip: how about don’t be a sexist, idiotic douche? Or even better, how about just fucking don’t, and let girls enjoy a show without fending off some moron who gets dating tips from an MTV blog called “Guy Code?”
I want to conclude this eloquently but my fashion reality TV programs are on so I will just leave it at this: how about you go fuck yourself? OMG LOLZ SHOES!
Also just in case none of what I said registered because vagina, here is a quote from Kerry McCoy from Deafheaven (whose album Sunbather was crowned Rolling Stone’s #1 metal album of 2013):
“As long as I have been going to shows, there have been women there. This isn’t a new thing, it hasn’t been a new thing since metal has existed. My “cute girl” girlfriend has liked Autopsy since she was 16. What rock do you fucking morons live under? Please return to it.”
k thx baiiiii!!!!
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40 comments
Brett Stevens says:
Jan 31, 2014
ReplyThe point is that in the old days, metal wasn’t a social event and it certainly wasn’t rock music like Deafheaven. Now people have socialized it and the result is insipid, hence giving rise to articles like tits-at-a-metal-show inanity.
goatcock says:
Jan 31, 2014
Replyyou’re a fucking idiot. metalheads need to quit living in denial about deafheaven, they are still at the core, very black metal. thats just an objective statement about the bands sound, why are metalheads so fucking scared of creativity and progress? every time a band tries to do something new in metal all the old thrash metal idiots get all butthurt and take to the internet. fuck you.
Brian Budack says:
Jan 31, 2014
ReplyShows have always been a social event. WTF are you even trying to say?
says:
Feb 1, 2014
ReplyMetal is music. Music in public performance has always been a social event. Always. And in the “old days” – how far back do you want to go? Gregorian chants? Renaissance quartets? Mozart? German romanticism? Metal evolved out of less heavy popular rock, which evolved from blues and jazz, which blah blah blah it goes on back to when humans learned to beat on drums and carve flutes. And women have always enjoyed music. The end.
Branislav Plesa says:
Jan 31, 2014
ReplyI think you’re giving this misogynistic bastard too much attention, I don’t recall ever going to a metal- or hardcoreconcert without attractive women being there.
To answer your question:”He’s writing about it in order to get attention, his mother probable neglected him as a child and he’ll spend the rest of his pathetic life trying to make up for that.
Which makes it an even bigger shame that you’re actually giving this guy any attention.
Tonya says:
Jan 31, 2014
ReplyThank you so much for this!!! His article was a bunch of bullshit. I have been going to metal/hardcore shows for 10+ years and always remember seeing women at the shows and there were many who were single, who came because they like the music. Yes, it is a predominantly male scene…but there are those girls peppered throughout that scene and usually they are pretty badass to boot. After reading his article, it left me pretty speechless because of the sexist undertones…no, fuck that it was pretty damn blatant. Anyway, I really enjoyed your article. Now, if you excuse me I have to get on the interwebs to look up videos of metal bands to make sure I can handle going to a Toxic Holocaust show and do my nails.
Celtic Frosties says:
Jan 31, 2014
ReplyI think that in the early and late nineties especially, the demographics were far from even. In the late nineties especially, when being into anything resembling thrash or black metal was about as socially appealing as having leprosy, there were very few ladies at shows.
Metal has become trendy and with the widening of the audience, you automatically get an influx of douchebags. This means that, along with new recruits who wouldn’t have been exposed to the style without the wider public acceptance, a whole bunch of douchebags attend the shows as well.
Yes – it is perceived as ‘cooler’ and trendier. Yes as someone who has always felt an affinity for the genre it’s galling to go to see a great band slightly past their prime at a venue large enough to accommodate said douchebags for the sake of whom you lose the ‘intimate concert feel’ of the event.
These douchebags will include young trendy ladies only there to flaunt their wares at an event which is perceived as edgy and cool, as well as a bunch of posers who will switch to the next trend once the zeitgeist decides this one is no longer de rigeur.
But seriously – get over it. If it’s that much of a problem, organise your own sausage-fest open to only your fellow initiated disciples of myopic idiocy. This will have the dual benefit of (a) recreating the atmosphere of metal’s long-lost years out of the limelight and (b) will keep you away from proper shows.
Anonymous says:
Jan 31, 2014
ReplyWow.. this is more terrible than the original article that you are supposedly making fun of (and failing at it miserably). Take your biased, ignorance-infused feminist propaganda bullshit outta here and go take some more journalism courses.
Haha says:
Jan 31, 2014
ReplyU mad?
Danny says:
Jan 31, 2014
Replyhahaha,”feminist propaganda”. Aw, poor widdle boy, is he scared of the big mean girls who don’t return his thousands of email messages? wah wah wah, go masturbate your PUA sites you infantile troll
Brian Budack says:
Jan 31, 2014
ReplyGlad you can talk shit but will not put your name on it. A) It is not Propaganda to say women have been an important part of metal and hardcore for a long time coward. B) It is a zine with a left bent why are you even reading it. C)I know more than enough women who would be offended bye this shit. But you can just stay in the corner with your three angry dude friends telling girls they are sluts and getting smacked up bye people for being a general piece of shit. Fyi My name is Brian Budack. I have no problem Signing my name when I make a statement.
sophie says:
Feb 1, 2014
Replybutt hurt!!
tex says:
Jan 31, 2014
Replyyou are also an idiot.
tex says:
Jan 31, 2014
Replyyou’re also an idiot.
Steve says:
Jan 31, 2014
ReplySECONDED
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BTTB says:
Jan 31, 2014
ReplyThis article is proof that the modern version of “feminism” is just as lame as every version of misogyny.
I.D.S. says:
Jan 31, 2014
Replyanytime MTV writes about anything to do with NYHC….
THEY FUCK IT UP…
like SUBZERO says….FUCK MTV!
johanna says:
Jan 31, 2014
ReplyThank you Yasi for saying all the things I would have loved to have said to this moron, and the morons who hired him to write such idiotic garbage, and for putting him in his place. Hopefully this will deter both parties, as well as the future of metal writing,for allowing such garbage to be seen by the public in the future. Although you did leave one small detail of Ethan’s oversight that I think is worth noting: that being, the general assumption by such Neanderthals that all us cute/hot girls learned everything we know about metal/punk/hardcore from our previous boyfriends. Ha ha what a laff ! I have introduced new music to every boyfriend I have ever had, and have dumped, poured drinks on, and publicly embarrassed men who as much as alluded to such a ludicrous, misogynistic thought. Ethan, and every manchild like him, can go back to sucking dicks at a glory hole in Chicago, or at rest stops while on tour with his shitty band that no one actually cares about, especially hot chicks, since he won’t be getting laid by any, or hopefully any more writing jobs, anytime soon.
Brenda says:
Jan 31, 2014
ReplyThe only sexist, idiotic douche I see is the one who wrote this moronic article.
Christina says:
Jan 31, 2014
ReplyIf that’s the case then there is something very wrong with you.
Callthecops says:
Jan 31, 2014
ReplyNo, there’s something wrong with the author of this article, who can’t get out a single sentence without piling up the rage. I get it. She’s angry. I’m angry too. The guy who wrote that other article was a douche. Unfortunately in the real world in order to be taken seriously, you need to act like a civil human being. I was on her side right up until the third time she practically repeated the same snarky joke over and over again, furthering the “angry feminist” stereotype. Grow up.
lindsay says:
Jan 31, 2014
ReplyLOL what the fuck are you talking about??? How??? Are you a real person? Are you literate?
Jess says:
Jan 31, 2014
ReplyYES YES YES YES YES
Danny says:
Jan 31, 2014
ReplySometimes people need to get called out on bullshit and Yasi I dig that you did just that. Metal and hardcore has been getting more attention and trendy nowdays but fuck it cant really do much about that. But one thing that kinda made me sad is that MTV is probably paying that dude Ethan some good money just to write some garage. When there’s people out that write some good decent stuff and isn’t getting no money for it.
BroManDude says:
Jan 31, 2014
ReplyIsn’t MTV itself infinitely offensive to women than this shitty article 14 people will read about girls at metal shows?
Maynard says:
Jan 31, 2014
Replymetal, harcore, noise, and power electronics are historically very male dominant, and I maybe these styles are getting too popular these days and are becoming kind of a fad…I don’t want to see some babe who looks ready to hit the club hanging out at an eyehategod show. Or a bunch of girls in thick rim glasses that are obvi not prescription standing in front of me while I’m trrryiiing to listen to wolf eyes. Though i agree that some girls just have good taste in music and they don’t even have a cool boyfriend or an older brother to show them what’s cool. They just know. I’d like a girl like that to be my gf.
GREGORY says:
Feb 1, 2014
Replyson, this is bait
ant says:
Jan 31, 2014
Replyeven worse – http://guycodeblog.mtv.com/2013/12/31/2014-concerts/
Adam says:
Feb 3, 2014
ReplySomeone please help me out here. In response to that link, and this article as a hole — Is your issue that men should not try to make out with girls at concerts? Or that they should not try to hit on women at concerts? Or they should not try to hit on women anywhere? Everyone seems to have gotten their panties in a bunch (no pun intended) over a guy who wrote just another article on how to pick up women. Would you have the same response if this were an article on how to pick up women at the grocery store? If that’s your gripe, your aggression is severely misguided.
Callthecops says:
Jan 31, 2014
ReplyWhen a man is a snarky asshole that can’t finish a paragraph without some overly aggressive comment about “Cause OBVIOUSLY I only like cars” (Or some other shit), any reasonable human being would dismiss him as a fucking dick. Because he IS one. That dude needs to chill out and write a civil article that properly displays his point, without acting like a complete and utter shithead.
With that having been said, please understand when I say that this woman needs to fucking chill out and write a civil article that properly displays her point without acting like a complete and utter shithead. I totally laughed at the first three times she made the “Oh haha I only listen to Taylor Swift cause I’m a girl” joke. And I also, totally support the sentiment that she is trying to get across. The article this is responding to is utter garbage, and the author is an ignorant dick. But after the first 3 times, I found myself wishing that the author of this article wasn’t such a combative asshole, not because she has a vagina, and she should be more lady-like, but because she’s a human being, and needs to act like an adult, not a snarky preteen.
If a man wants his point to be taken seriously he has to present it civilly. So do you, Yasi.
haa says:
Jan 31, 2014
Replyoh shit marauder!
Richard says:
Jan 31, 2014
ReplyI like how you ended *your* part of the article with “OMG LOLZ SHOES!” and then quoted a… black metal/shoegaze band.
Wes says:
Jan 31, 2014
ReplyEveryone should listen to Candiria and shut the fuck up
lindsay says:
Jan 31, 2014
Replyyou’re great. thanks for writing this. spot on critique.
i’d also like to add that the author of the article in question clearly has no understanding of hardcore as a specific category of “heavy” music (marauder LOL), and therefore, should have probably excluded it from his already-embarassing drivel.
Rosemary Hill says:
Feb 1, 2014
ReplyTop Lolz!!!!
Grulog says:
Feb 1, 2014
ReplyI think we’re neglecting the real problem here. MTV is encouraging posers go to metal shows. It looks more like an attempt to break down the fibers of the one musical culture they have never had any control over. On a more positive note, a bunch of jersey shore deuchbags at a metal concert would get steamrolled attempting that poser shit.
Dave says:
Feb 1, 2014
ReplyThe thing is attractive girls dont go to these shows. Unless you like girls who shave their heads and more likely interested in the female rocking out with them than any guy there
fuck you says:
Feb 3, 2014
Replyfuck taylor swift and lorde, they are fucking bullshit, try listening to actual talent
King Latifah says:
Mar 11, 2014
ReplyWhoa! People commented on a post? On a side note, yeah, you’re right, hot chicks do not go to metal shows. The ratio is still 100% ugly chicks there.